We have been using these drop nose 162 gram thermoplastic saddles for 3 years. Don't let the no padding intimidate you, these saddles almost have a mini suspension as they give in the middle when needed. The finish does eventually wear but they one of the most comfortable saddles we have ever used. We have had no failures structurally and feel very confident offering them on our high end builds. Available in Jet Black, Tangerine Orange, or Scarlet Red finish.